Wednesday, November 22, 2017

Genetic Genealogy DNA test sales: FTDNA; 23andMe; AncestryDNA; MyHeritage

The largest USA based DNA testing companies have Holiday sales going on at this time:

Family Tree DNA:
• Family Finder $59, usually $89
• Y-DNA $129, usually $169
• mt-DNA $169, usually $199
• Big Y $475 (includes Y-DNA test for 111 markers)

If you have already tested at FTDNA you will be receiving Discount Coupons that can further reduce these sale prices.

23andMe is charging $49.00 if you buy 2 Ancestry Service kits. The normal cost of the Ancestry Service is $99.00.


AncestryDNA costs $79.00, a $20 discount from their regular price of $99.00. Rumor is that Ancestry will have a Black Friday price of $49.00.


This weekend, 24 Nov-27 Nov, MyHeritage is offering their normally priced $99.00 DNA test for $49.00 with free shipping for 3 or more kits.

Check all of the companies on Black Friday and Cyber Monday for possible lower costs.

Tuesday, April 25, 2017

DNA Day Sales at Family Tree DNA now through 27 April, 2017

These Family Tree DNA tests are on sale through Thursday night in honor of DNA Day this week.

Save on Family Finder, mtFull and Y-DNA tests April 20 - 27, 2017. The sale ends at 11:59pm CST Thursday April 27. And please share this with your relatives! If you have older relatives, please consider sponsoring their tests so that their DNA heritage can be discovered.

Questions? Please see Family Tree DNA or check your FTDNA homepage.

Thanks to Sandra Kidd.

Friday, February 17, 2017

My LivingDNA UK results

Last year I signed up with LivingDNA for their DNA analysis to see where in the UK my DNA maps to. They claimed to be able to make the map due to their colaboration with The Peoples of the British Isles project. At this time they have samples from Great Britain and Northern Ireland. They are working to obtain results from Eire so they will be able to map people of mainly British ancestry to locations within both parts of the Isles.

Here are my results:

Except for the Cornish component this matches my known British ancestry.
  • Aberdeen: John Burnett and Lucretia Johnston of Aberdeen and Edinburgh, Scotland to Old Rappahannock, Virginia Colony.
  • Berkshire: Joseph Phipps and Mary Benfield of Reading went to Pennsylvania Colony. Quakers.
  • Carmarthen: Maud Richard of Llanllwich, St. Peter's Parish, Carmarthen, Wales to Pennsylvania Colony where she married Rowland Powell.
  • Cheshire: Samuel Hotchkis from Doddington, Whitchurch, Shropshire to New Haven Colony (Conn.).
  • Joseph Helsby, of Kingsley, Cheshire and Jane or Joan Lockett of Frodsham, Cheshire to Pennsylvania Colony. Quaker.
  • Katherine Gandy, of Overly Whitley, Cheshire to Pennsylvania Colony. Quaker. Married to Isaac Richardson.
  • Devon: George Boone of Stoke Canon, Devon and Mary Maugrige, of Bradnitch, Devon to Pennsylvania Colony.
  • Lancashire: Isaac Richardson to Pennsylvania Colony. Quaker. Married to Katharine Gandy.
  • Lincolnshire: Matthew Moulthrop and Jane Nicholl,from Wrawby, Lincolnshire to New Haven Colony, (Conn.).
  • Norfolk: Edmund Creekmore (Crickman) of Norfolk, Norfolk to Norfolk, Virgina Colony.
  • Worcestershire: Thomas Farley, Gent., of Worcester, Worcestershire and Jane ----- to Jamestown, Virginia Colony (earliest confirmed immigrant ancestor, 1623 on the Ann).
My genetic cousin, Debbie Kennett, has two very detailed posts on her LivingDNA results which I recommend everyone interested in this analysis read: My living DNA results part 1 My living DNA results part 2

Sunday, November 20, 2016

November-December issue of British Archaeology: The ancient British genome: writing new histories

The article begins on page 14. Most Barnes & Noble bookstores in USA carry the magazine. The article is not available online at this time.

The article reviews four studies with DNA results from 23 people: 4 Iron Age; 11 Roman and 8 Anglo Saxon - 12 men and 11 women. There are a number of charts in the article and details of each individual on pages 24-25.

Edited to add the following:

Here are citations to three studies discussed in the British Archaeology article I posted about last nigh​t​ as well as citation​s​ to ​two other aDNA article​s​ mentioned but not discussed:

​​​Roman London​

Redfern, R.,​,​ Going south of the river: A multidisciplinary analysis of ancestry, mobility and diet in a population from Roman Southwark,London​, ​Journal of Archaeological Science​, Volume 74, October 2016, Pages 11–22,
Museum of London Report on the DNA Analyses of Four Roman Individuals Supplementary Information,

​Northern England​

Bradley, et al, Genomic signals of migration and continuity in Britain before the Anglo-Saxons, Nature Communications, Jan 2016, DOI: 10.1038/ncomms10326,
Muldner, Gundula; Chenery, Carolyn; Eckardt, Hella. 2011, The ‘Headless Romans’ : multi-isotope investigations of an unusual burial ground from Roman Britain. Journal of Archaeological Science, 38 (2). 280-290. 10.1016/j.jas.2010.09.003​, paywall: (not discussed)


Schiffels, S., et al, Iron Age and Anglo-Saxon genomes from East England reveal British migration history​, ​Nature Communications · January 2016 DOI: 10.1038/ncomms10408 :

​Ireland (not discussed)

Neolithic and Bronze Age migration to Ireland and establishment of the insular Atlantic genome,
Lara M. Cassidya,1, Rui Martinianoa,1, Eileen M. Murphyb , Matthew D. Teasdalea , James Malloryb , Barrie Hartwellb , and Daniel G. Bradleya,2 a Smurfit Institute of Genetics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland; and b School of Geography, Archaeology and Palaeoecology, Queen’s University Belfast, Belfast BT7 1NN, Northern Ireland​,

The conclusion is that there is genetic continuity through the Roman period with two African and one Middle Eastern individuals as exceptions, and then a genetic change in the Anglo-Saxon era from ~400-900 A.D. 20% to 40% of modern British ancestry can be attributed to the Anglo-Saxons.

Any error in interpretation is mine.

Sunday, November 13, 2016

I am not attending the Family Tree DNA Administrators Conference this weekend. Fortunately, Jennifer Zinck is. Jennifer has posted her notes from the Saturday sessions on her blog at this URL:

The following topics are covered:
  • Introduction to the Conference;
  • Dr Michael Hammer on "Ancient European DNA";
    Announcement of the AncientOrigins result page
    (non-European section is still under development);
  • Presentation by Bill Griffith on his discovery that
    his biological father was not the person who raised thought it was;
  • Janine Cloud presented on "Personal Privacy in Public Projects";
  • “Genographic Project Database: How Genetic Genealogists and Academics are working together”
    by Dr. Miguel Vilar of the National Geographic Society;
  • FTDNA Lab Manager Connie Bormans presented “What’s taking so long?!?!?! The Life Cycle of a DNA sample.”;
  • Michael Sager presented on the FTDNA SNP Tree.
Each presentation had a Q & A section.

Check back tonight for the Sunday sessions.

Sunday, November 06, 2016

LivingDNA sample sent back today.

I ordered a LivingDNA (1) test on September 27th and received it within two weeks. I only got around to taking the cheek cell samples today.

This test is for people with ancestry predominately from the British Isles, excepting Eire. The company is trying to get samples from Eire that can be used to make the test interpretation more accurate. The Interpretation should coordinate with the results of the People of the British Isles dna project (2)(3).

The test kit comes in a 9.5 inch by 5.5 inch cardboard box. It consists of an instruction book, two swab kits, a specimen bag, and the return envelope.

If you have taken a Y DNA test from FTDNA you will be used to the cheek swab kit used in this test. After doing the swabs, there are two samples to take, you place the swabs back into their original containers, no solution needed, attached the sample kit ID tags, place them in the specimen bag and then put that into the postage pre-paid plastic envelope and mail it back.

For my kit the specimen is being mailed back to Louisville, Kentucky. I don't know if that is the only collection point in the USA.

Once I have results I'll post them here and on my genealogy blog.


Thursday, October 06, 2016

Some updates on autosomal DNA test costs

New Prices:

Family Tree DNA has decreased its cost for the Family Finder test to $79.00;
AncestryDNA costs $99.00 and it has frequent sales that bring that price down;
23andMe has an Ancestry only price of $99.00 and an Ancestry with FDA approved medical information for $199.00.

LivingDNA costs $159.00 and is oriented to people of primarily UK ancestry.

Monday, August 29, 2016

Sunday, July 03, 2016

FTDNA DNA test results and transferring to GENI.

FTDNA and GENI have teamed up and you can now transfer your FTDNA DNA test results to GENI for free. There is not charge to maintain a pedigree at GENI. For other GENI services the basic membership is $119.90 USD per year. See the comment below.

I transferred my Y DNA, mtDNA and atDNA (it appears to be Family Finder) to Geni and have some 15 mtDNA and atDNA matches. No Y DNA matches. It will give you a list of people who should match you based on your DNA and the pedigrees. With mtDNA, it seems to give very close readings for people who actually are far far away. So far I am told I have 3rd to 4th cousin mtDNA matches in Finland, Norway, and South Africa based on HVR1 and HVR2 matches. Not likely in my opinion.

Confusingly, GENI says you can transfer your 23andme or Ancestry atDNA results to GENI. The announcement with FTDNA did not mention atDNA, but my Family Finder results seem to have been transferred.

Also GENI is now affiliated to My Heritage. If you have less than 250 people in you pedigree at My Heritage there is no charge to use their service. If you want to add more people to the pedigree you must pay the basic membership price. At GENI you will often get notices of matches in the My Heritage document databases or pedigrees. If followed, these will take you to My Heritage and you will need to purchase a membership to see the information. As My Heritage charges separately for their pedigree and their document databases, this can get expensive fast.

On its own, My Heritage accepts atDNA uploads from 23andme. How these different DNA tests are going to work together in the databases is currently unknown.

There is no chromosome browser at either GENI or My Heritage at this time.

If you have known European ancestry since 1830 or so, this is probably a good deal. Otherwise it is not much use to US colonial descendants. YMMV.

Thursday, June 23, 2016

23andMe and the new homepage for The New Experience

Since last year 23andMe has been transitioning new and old participants to The New Experience. As a version 2.0 and 3.0 participant, I have recently been told I will be transitioned by the end of August 2016.

Below is a link to a 23andMe Blog post on the new Homepage:

Designing the New 23andMe Homepage

June 22, 2016
Published by 23andMe under 23andMe and you, inside 23andMe

A Personalized Guide to the Incredible You
By Scott Andress, Director of Product Design at 23andMe

Your 23andMe results have arrived. The day you’ve been waiting for is here. It’s the culmination of curiosity, mystery – even trepidation. What will you find out about yourself and your family? The answers are just one click away.

Continue reading here: Designing the new 23andMe homepage